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Each individual has his part to play in projecting these EE units into physical actuality. Therefore physical matter can be legitimately described as an extension of the self, as much as the physical body is a projection of the inner self. Read more:

Today I want to deal with an area of life that touches both spirit and matter and connects the two and therefore explains among many other things how matter comes into being.

During the last months the scientific search for particles was in the public eye and key words were Higgs bosons and Large Hadron Collider and Cern and the Standard Model and the suggestion that the Standard Model might have to be replaced with something else.

One interesting aspect of this public discussion was the fact that the scientist very much seemed to avoid to describe this other area of their research work, this area that lies beyond the area of matter, the area of the spirit.

So today I will bring quotes from the Seth material that will stimulate new ways of thinking and approach science from the spiritual side, and not from the material side, and goes into a field of science that has been opposed by many scientist so far and the reason for this is probably that they felt very threatened by it because they also felt that it might cause all their ideas to collapse and that is the field of parapsychology. Parapsychology is the study of mental phenomena outside the sphere of ordinary psychology and encompasses things like telepathy. Parapsychology or psychic research is a field of study concerned with scientific evaluation of distinct types of phenomena like ESP, or extrasensory perception, which is perception other than by the recognized senses of an event or object, and by recognized senses the outer senses are meant.

Parapsychology is the study of supposed mental phenomena that cannot be explained by known psychological or scientific principles and now to what Seth has to say about these. The quotes are from 1969. Seth is a former inhabitant of earth, Jane Roberts is the lady Seth speaks through and which he does not call Jane but Ruburt and Roberts F. Butts is Jane Robert’s husband and the one Seth speaks to and who also writes down what Seth says:


("Let’s move on to the other question then, about the doctor from Cornell.”)

It is not significant enough, unless you want to go into the deeper material that you mentioned earlier, in connection with perception and the electromagnetic basis for all perception.

(“Well, I’ve always wanted to ask about that. Can you give us a little on it?”

(Earlier this evening I had mentioned to Jane my long-standing interest in Seth’s statement, years ago, that all ESP perceptions had an electromagnetic basis. I was curious about this because we have read that no investigation has ever turned up any electromagnetic relationship with ESP. I wondered about building the right kind of instruments, or whether there were still discoveries to be made, etc.)

Give us a moment. I would rather tie it in to our information on the fetus -


- and in that way we can carry on both discussions.

(“All right.”)

Now. There are electromagnetic structures, so to speak, that are presently beyond your instruments. Units that are basic carriers of perception. They have a very brief life in your terms. Their size varies. Several units may combine for example, many units may combine. To put this as simple as possible, it is not so much that they move through space, as that they use space to move through. There is a difference.

In a manner of speaking, thermal qualities are involved, laws also of attraction and repulsion. The units charge the air through which they pass, and draw to them other units. The units are not stationary in the way that a cell say, is stationary within the body, generally speaking.

Even a cell, for example, only appears stationary.

These units have no home. They are built up in response to emotional intensity. They are one form that emotional intensity takes. They follow their own rules of attraction and repulsion. As a magnet, you see, will attract with its filaments, so these units attract their own kind, and form patterns, which then appear to you as perception.

Now the fetus utilizes these units. So does any consciousness, including that of a plant. Cells are not just responsive to light because this is the order of things, but because an emotional desire to perceive light is present.

The desire appears on this other level in the form of these electromagnetic units, which then cause a light sensitivity. These units are free-wheeling. They can be used in normal perception, or in what you call extrasensory perception.

I will discuss more about their basic nature either this evening or at another session, and I would like to tie this in with the fetus, since the fetus of course is highly involved with perceptive mechanisms.

(“Next time, I guess, though this is very interesting.”

(I wanted very much to continue, but was almost overwhelmingly tired.)

It is not that you cannot devise instruments to perceive these. Your scientists are simply asking the wrong questions, and do not think in terms of such free-wheeling structures.

(. . . Jane said that Seth was going to talk about the electromagnetic units discussed in the last session – she could “feel him buzzing around.”)

Good evening.

(“Good evening, Seth”)

Now. These units of which we spoke earlier are basically animations rising from consciousness.

I am speaking now of the consciousness within each physical particle regardless of its size; of molecular consciousness, cellular consciousness, as well as the larger gestalts of consciousness with which you are usually more familiar.

Because of Ruburt’s limited scientific vocabulary, this is somewhat difficult to explain. Also some of the theories I will present in this discussion will be quite familiar to you.

Now these emanations arise as naturally as breath, and there are other comparisons that can be made, in that there is a coming in and a going out, and transformation within the unit, as what is taken into the lungs for, example is not the same thing that leaves the lung on the exhale stroke.

You could compare these units, simply for an analogy, to the invisible breath of consciousness. This analogy will not carry us far, but it will be enough initially to get the idea across. Breath is of course also a pulsation, and these units operate in a pulsating manner. They are emitted by the cells, for example, in plants, animals, rocks, and so forth.

They would have color if you were able to perceive them physically.

They are electromagnetic, in your terms, following their own patterns of positive and negative charge, and following also certain laws of magnetism. In this instance, like definitely attracts like.

The emanations are actually emotional tones. The variety of tones, for all intents and purposes, are infinite.

These units are just beneath the range of physical matter. None of them are identical. However, there is a structure to them. The structure is beyond the range of electromagnetic qualities as your scientists think of them.

Consciousness automatically produces these emanations, and they are the basis for any kind of perception, both sensory in usual terms, and extrasensory.

I am beginning this material. Later you will see I am making it simple for you, but you will not understand it unless we begin in this manner. I do intend to explain their structure to you; now give us a moment.

These emanations can also appear as sounds, and you will be able to translate them into sounds long before your scientists discover their basic meaning. One of the reasons why they have not been discovered is precisely because they are so cleverly camouflaged within all structures.

Being just beyond the range of matter, having a structure, but a nonphysical structure, and being of a pulsating nature, they can expand or contract. They can completely envelop, for example, a small cell, or retreat to the nucleus within. They combine qualities of a unit and a field, in other words.

This is another reason why they remain a secret from Western scientists. Intensity governs their activity, and their size, since we must use that term. Give us a moment with this.

Intensity not only governs their activity and size, but the relative strength of their magnetic nature. They will draw other such units to them, for example, according to the intensity of the emotional tone of the particular consciousness at any given, quote, “point.”

These units then obviously change constantly. If you must speak in terms of size, then they change in size constantly, as they contract and expand. Theoretically there is no limit, you see, to their rate of concentration or expansion. They are also absorbent. They do give off thermal qualities, and these are the only hint that your scientists have received of them so far.

Their characteristics draw them toward constant interchange. Clumps of them – will be drawn together, literally sealed, only to drop away and disperse once more.

Now. They form, their nature is behind, what is commonly known as air, and they use this to move through. The air in other words can be said to be formed by the animations of these units.

I will try to clear this later, but the air is the result of these units’ existence, formed by the interrelationship of the units in their positions and relative distance one from the other, and in what you could call the relative velocity of their motion. Air is what happens when these units are in motion, and it is in terms of weather that their electromagnetic effects appear most clearly to scientists, for example.

These units – let us discuss them as they are related, for example, to a rock. The rock is composed of atoms and molecules each with their own consciousness. This forms a gestalt-rock-consciousness.

These units are sent out indiscriminately by the various atoms and molecules, but portions of them are also directed by the overall rock consciousness. The units are sent out then from the rock, informing the rock as to the nature of its changing environment, the angle of the sun, and temperature changes for example as night falls; and even in the case of a rock, they change as the rock’s loosely called emotional tone changes. As the units change they alter the air about them, which is the result of their own activity.

They constantly emanate out from the rock and return to it, in a motion so swift it would seem simultaneous. The units meet with, and to some extent merge with, other units sent out, say from foliage and all other objects. There is a constant blending, and also attraction and repulsion.

The units about which I have been speaking do not have any specific, regular, preordained “life,” in quotes. They will not seem to follow many scientific principles. Since they are the intuitive force just beyond the reach of matter, upon which matter is formed, they will not follow the laws of matter, although at times they will mimic the laws of matter.

It is almost impossible to detect an individual unit, for in its dance of activity it constantly becomes a part of other such units, expanding and contracting, pulsating and changing in intensity, in force, and changing polarity. This last is extremely important.

With Ruburt’s limited vocabulary, this is rather difficult to explain, but it would be as if the position of your north and south poles changed constantly while maintaining the same relative distance from each other, and by their change in polarity upsetting the stability of the planet – except that because of the greater comparative strength at the poles of the units (gestures, attempts to draw diagrams in the air), a newer stability is almost immediately achieved after each shifting. Is that much clear?


The shifting of polarity occurs in rhythm with changing emotional intensities, or emotional energies, if you prefer. You may use EE.

The “initial,” in quotes, originating emotional energy that sets any given unit into motion, and forms it, then causes the unit to become a highly charged electromagnetic field, with those characteristics of changing polarities just mentioned.

The changing polarities are also caused by attraction and repulsion from other like units, which may be attached or detached. There is a rhythm that underlies all of this changing polarity and changing intensities that occur constantly. But the rhythms have to do with the nature of emotional energy itself, and not with the laws of physical matter.

Without an understanding of these rhythms the activity of the unit would appear haphazard, chaotic, and there would seem to be nothing to hold the units together. Indeed, they seem to be flying apart at tremendous speeds. The “nucleus,” in quotes – now using a cell analogy – if these units were cells, which they are not, then it would be as if the nucleus were constantly changing position, flying off in all directions, dragging the rest of the cell along with it. Do you follow the analogy?


The units obviously are within the reality of all cells. Now. The initiation point is the basic part of the unit, as the nucleus is the important part of the cell. The initiating point is the originating, unique, individual and specific emotional energy, or EE, that forms any given unit. It becomes the entryway into physical matter.

It is the initial three-sided enclosure, from which all matter must spring. The initial point forms the three sides about it. There is an explosive nature as the emotional energy is born.

The three-sided effect, instantly formed, leads to an effect that is something like friction, but the effect causes the three sides to change position, so that you end up with a triangular effect, closed, with the initial point inside the triangle. Now, you understand this is not a physical form.


The energy point, the EE point, from here on, constantly changes the form of the unit, but the procedure I have just mentioned must first occur. The unit may become circular, for example. Now these intensities of EE, forming the units, end up by transforming all available space into what they are. Certain intensities and certain positions of polarity between and among the units, and great groupings of the units, compress energy into solid form.

The emotional energy within the units is obviously the motivating factor, and you can see why emotional energy can indeed shatter a physical object. You may take your break.

(Jane made it a point to mention that in regard to the switch in polarities of the ELM units: “This isn’t only with north and south switching, but opposites anywhere on the rim of the circle I used as illustration – such as east and west reversed, etc.”)

(Today Jane had been reading Experimental Psychology, by C.G. Jung, first American edition, published by Jung’s heirs in 1968, etc.)

Good evening.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

Now. There is one large point, underestimated by all of your psychologists, when they list the characteristics or attributes of consciousness. I am going to tie in this material with our discussion on what you call our EE units, as there is a very close connection.

Now let us start with Jung for a bit. He presumes that consciousness must be organized about an ego structure. And what he calls the unconscious, not so egotistically organized, he therefore considers without consciousness, without consciousness of a self.

He makes a good point, saying that the ego cannot know unconscious material directly. He does not realize however, nor do your other psychologists, what I have told you often – that there is an inner ego that organizes what Jung would call unconscious material.

Again, when you are in a state that is not the normal waking one, when you have forsaken this daily self, you are nevertheless conscious and alert. You merely block out the memory from the normal waking ego. So when the attributes of consciousness are given, creativity is largely ignored. It is assigned instead primarily to the unconscious. My point is that the unconscious is conscious. Creativity is one of the most important attributes and aspects of consciousness. We will differentiate between normal ego consciousness then, and consciousness that only appears unconscious to that ego.

Now the inner ego is another term for what we call inner self. As the outer ego manipulates within the environment and physical reality, so the inner ego or self organizes and manipulates within an inner reality. The inner ego creates that physical reality with which the outer ego then deals.

Now all the richly creative, original work that is done by this inner self is not unconscious. It is purposeful, highly (underlined) discriminating, performed by the inner conscious ego, of which the exterior ego is but a shadow, and not you see the other way around.

Jung’s dark side of the self is the ego, not the unconscious. The complicated, infinitely varied, unbelievable rich tapestry of Jung’s, in quotes “unconscious,” could hardly be unconscious. It is the product of an inner consciousness with far more sense of identity and purpose than the daily ego. It is the daily ego’s ignorance and limited focus that makes it view so-called unconscious activity as chaotic.

The conscious ego rises indeed out of quote “the unconscious,” but the unconscious being the creator of the ego, is necessarily far more conscious than its offspring. The ego is simply not conscious enough to be able to contain the vast knowledge that belongs to the inner conscious self from which it springs.

It is the inner self, out of the massive knowledge and unlimited scope of its consciousness, that forms the physical world, that provides stimuli to keep the ego constantly at the job of awareness. It is the inner self, termed here the inner ego, that organizes, initiates, projects, controls the EE units of which we have been speaking lately, transforming energy into objects, into matter.

The energy of this inner self is directed and used by it to richly form from itself, from components and inner experience, a material counterpart in which the outer ego then can act out its role. The outer ego is most in the role, acting out a play that the inner self has written.

This is not to say that the outer ego is a puppet. It is to say that the outer ego is far less conscious than the inner ego or the inner self, that its perception is less, that it is far less stable, though it makes great pretense at stability; that it springs from the inner self, and is less rather than more, aware.

Now. The ego is spoon-fed, being given only those feelings and emotions, only that data, that it can handle. This data is then presented to it in a highly specialized manner, usually in terms of information picked up by the physical senses. The inner self is obviously not only conscious, but conscious of itself, both as an individuality apart from others, and as an individuality that is a part of all other consciousness.

In your terms it is continually aware, both of this apartness and unity-with. The outer ego is not continuously, in your terms, aware of anything. It frequently forgets itself. When it becomes swept up in a strong emotion it seems to lose itself. There is unity then but no sense of apartness. When it most vigorously maintains its sense of individuality it is no longer aware of unity-with.

The inner ego however is always aware of both aspects of its reality. In the deepest sense, this inner self is organized about its primary aspect, which is creativity. It constantly translates the components of its gestalt into reality, either physical reality through the EE units I have mentioned, or into other realities equally as valid.

Now you may take your break and we shall continue.

(I didn’t press Seth with questions since it seemed he preferred to continue with the Jung reply.

(In reference to this, I asked a question at break: Since Jung was “dead,” how had his published ideas now changed, etc.)

Now. The EE units are the forms basic experience takes when directed by this inner self.

These then form physical objects, physical matter. Matter is the shape that basic experience takes when it intrudes into three dimensional systems. Matter is the shape of your dreams. Your dreams, emotions, feelings, thoughts, are underlined transformed into physical matter purposefully by this inner self.

An individual inner self, then, through constant massive effort of great creative intensity, cooperates with all other inner selves to form and maintain the physical reality that you know, so that physical reality is an offshoot or by-product of, the highly conscious creative inner self.

Buildings appear to be made of rock or wood or steel. They appear fairly permanent to the physical senses. They are actually oscillating, ever-moving, highly charged gestalts of EE units, organized and maintained by collective effort on the part of inner selves. They are solidified emotions, solidified subjective states, given physical materialization.

The powers of consciousness are clearly not understood then, nor its multidimensional aspects. As I have told you, the self is literally unlimited. Each individual has his part to play in projecting these EE units into physical actuality. Therefore physical matter can be legitimately described as an extension of the self, as much as the physical body is a projection of the inner self.

Now it is obvious that the body grows up about the inner self, and that trees grow out of the ground, whereas buildings do not ordinarily spring up like flowers of their own accord; so the inner self has various methods of creation, and uses EE units in different ways, as you shall see as we continue with this discussion.

Having determined upon physical reality as a dimension in which it will project itself, the inner self therefore first of all takes care to form and maintain the physical basis upon which all else must depend – those physical properties of earth that can be called natural ones.

We have to a very brief extent begun to explain that phenomena in a recent session. The inner self has a vast and infinite reservoir from which to draw knowledge and gain experience. All kinds of choices are available, and the diversity of physical matter is a reflection of this deep source of variety.

With the natural structures formed and maintained, other physical secondary properties, secondary constructions, are projected. The deepest, most basic and abiding subjective experience is translated however into those natural elements; the ample landscape that sustains physical life.

Now we will continue with this discussion at our next session. Jung enlarged on some of his concepts shortly before he died. (Leaning forward, humorously emphatic:) He has changed a good many of them since then. Now you may take a break or end the session as you prefer.

(“We’ll take a break.”)

We will shortly end the session.

Suffice it to say however that in the future what I am telling you will be more generally known. Men will become familiar to some extent with their own inner identity, with other forms of their own consciousness.

Throughout the ages some have recognized the fact that there is self-consciousness and purpose in certain dream and sleep states, and have maintained, even in waking life, the sense of continuity of this inner self. To such people it is no longer possible to identify completely with the ego consciousness. They are too obviously aware of themselves as more. When such knowledge is gained, the ego can accept it, for it finds to its surprise that it is not less conscious, but more conscious, that its limitations are dissipated; now it is not true, and I emphasize this strongly, that so-called unconscious material, given any freedom, will draw energy away from the egotistically organized self in a normal personality.

Quite the contrary, the ego is replenished, and rather directly. It is the fear that the unconscious, so-called, is chaotic, that causes psychologists to make such statements, and there is also something in the nature of those who practice psychology, a fascination, in many cases, already predisposed to fear the so-called unconscious in direct proportion to its attraction for them.

The ego maintains its stability, its seeming stability, and its health, from the constant subconscious and unconscious nourishment that it receives. Too much nourishment will not kill it. Do you follow me here?


Only when such nourishment is for some reason cut off to a considerable degree, is the ego threatened by starvation… We will have more to say concerning the ego’s relationship with the so-called unconscious. In a healthy personality the inner self easily projects all experience into EE units, where they are translated into actuality. Physical matter therefore acts as a feedback. Now we will end our session unless you have questions.

(“I guess not. It’s been very interesting.”)

My heartiest regard, and a fond good evening to you both.


So that was Seth and now follow links to entries with Seth material:
2012 Jan 25 (3) – The basic universe
2012 Jan 29 – Units of consciousness
2012 Jan 31 – How scientists should work
2012 Feb 02 – The nature and construction of matter
2012 Feb 06 – Evolution
2012 Feb 10 – Scientists and clerics
2012 Feb 14 – “Barren” planets
2012 Feb 17 – Difference of heavenly bodies
2012 Feb 18 – Creating physical matter on a subconscious basis
2012 Feb 23 – The times of the end
2012 Mar 04 – From spirit to matter.


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