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Is the Sun really as science fools us? - Comment on 2010 September 6

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2010 September 6
Why is the sun's outer atmosphere so much hotter than the sun's visible surface? Does the sun really produce light or does it just reflect it just as the moon does? Are the other celestial bodies of our solar system, like the other planets and our moon and also the sun itself, really uninhabited? Read more:

Today, on the 6th of September 2010, I read an article that reminded me of things I had read in the works of Jakob Lorber and Bertha Dudde about the sun, about that star which is the centre of our solar system. These works seem to give a quite different picture than what our sciences seem to tell us and they seem to even sound ridiculous sometimes, but I have found that what seems to be ridiculous is often just a lack of knowledge combined with unbelief, and both are most of the time caused by our materialistic upbringing, both in secular and also in religious education, and that when so-called believers think and talk about spiritual things, then it is more something religious for them and has very little to do with what they think and talk of when they are not religious. Also something like walking by faith or walking in the spirit and being guided by it has often more to do with being influenced by some denominational teaching than by actual knowledge required about the spiritual kingdom.

A good example is the population on other celestial bodies. The scientific world uses there words like Seti, a scientific installation trying to establish communication with non-earthly beings in space by using high tech equipment, and worldly people use words like extraterrestrials. In spiritual teachings words are used like the spiritual kingdom, and that it has two divisions, the kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness. Now the purpose of all these heavenly bodies is to serve as schooling stations for beings to find their way back to God. And such celestial bodies which are nearest to us and most visible to us, like the earth and the moon and the sun are no exceptions. Also they serve as training stations to bring beings back to their original state. The whole material world was created for that purpose. A fundamental principle of all these different school houses is that they all have different basic systems, which cannot just like this be compared to our system. One could call them states of consciousness that are different to our state of consciousness. Even in a system like ours, here on earth, we have different states of consciousness. The best known are the state of being awake and the state of not being awake, the state of sleep. Every day we change between these two states. And another state of consciousness is when our soul leaves its body, may it be in an accident where the soul is shocked out of the body, or when a person's soul leaves its body while he is full awake and he may even do it on purpose and again and again and he then travels in the spiritual kingdom or when the soul just leaves the body during normal sleep and one just thinks it was just a dream but was actually an out of body experience and it happens every night to everyone, or when a soul leaves its body permanently at its 'death' and never returns to it. Such a soul which leaves its body in a state without any spiritual values may not really travel far but it hangs around the places it knows and is known as an earthbound spirit and a more advanced soul might continue its upward trend in a higher region or might even do it on another planet or sun. And a soul which has achieved its purpose of life on earth will also go into the spiritual kingdom, like all the others, but it will go straight into that part of the spiritual kingdom that is called the kingdom of light and will just by-pass the kingdom of darkness.

Now these earthbound spirits, the souls who leave their body and whose main aim on earth were material things like material goods or their only real interest were their children and grandchildren, or politics, or scientific interests, they stay close to earth and will not get out of its sphere of influence and they are sometimes seen by people and called ghosts, but that happens because these people who see them are operating in another state of consciousness and this might be allowed to show them that there is more to life than just our present state of consciousness and the purpose might be to wake them up and guide them into spiritual directions.

These earthbound spirits are all around us but we do not see them and there are plenty of other spiritual beings around which we do not see, like light beings trying to help us and to direct our interest towards spiritual things or spirits who are very busy managing the life and grows of plants and animals. But the point is that all these beings are not seen by us because they operate in a different system or we can say that their state of consciousness is not the same as ours.

And when a man comes to another heavenly body, let us say he steps onto the surface of the moon, then he brings with him the state of consciousness which he has on earth and that is completely different from the state of consciousness material beings on the moon might have. And the result is that he sees very little there and comes to the conclusion that there is no life on that satellite of ours.

Now our experiences of our visits to the moon have made us believe that there are no beings there and the same view exists towards other planets and when now someone claims that all these places are populated, then this is seen as ridiculous claims and being contrary to modern knowledge and when now someone would even claim that the sun is populated, then he would be considered to have lost his marbles.

And exactly such claims come from the writings of Jakob Lorber and Bertha Dudde. I remember one message from Bertha Dudde where it is said that the sun is actually not really a material body but a spiritual body. And having such claims read and then reading something about the sun that reminds one of these claims, makes one wonder, how the real situation might be.

Just my entry from two days ago about the reviewer of Stephan Hawking's newest book, where this reviewer reminds us of how transitory scientific ideas and theories really are, should let us see scientific claims as what they often really are: ideas and theories, but not necessarily reality.

I am very critical of so-called scientist who completely disregard the most important side of life, the spiritual side, and act like religious fanatics of a specific denomination, in this case the denomination of materialists, and try to push their views, or even worse just use such opinions in their books in order to increase sales.

And there we have another example of the fact that religion and science have much in common, they are both more interested in power and influence and reputation and money than in truth, and money is often the most important aspect. Actually science is often just one form of religion, the belief in materialism, a special denomination with all the trimmings of religion, including high priests and the rest of it.

A person - and it does not matter whether he has worldly interests or spiritual interests - can only then come closer to the truth when he does not exclude the spiritual side of life and when he also does not exclude the physical side of life. Whenever one side is excluded one can only speak of some sort of stupidity and such people can only be called fools as it is expressed in Psalm 14.

When the Seti type people are now already busy for half a century to find other beings in space and have not been successful then this is also because they can only think of life in physical form and do not understand that life comes from the spiritual inside of the physical and that they must contact that spiritual and that the only way spiritual beings communicate is by thought transfer.

Scientists tell us that the Moon orbits around the Earth, and that the Earth orbits around the Sun and the Sun orbits around the centre of the galaxy, the Milky Way. So the Moon orbits around a larger heavenly body than itself, and so does the Earth, but when it comes to the Sun, then this body orbits around a theoretical point somewhere in empty space and not around a much larger body. And so it might be that the Moon gives a lot of light at night so that we can see, so that we can see quite lot, especially when we compare this to nights where there is no moonlight at all, when it is absolutely dark and we see nothing. And so it might be with the Sun, that the Sun is also, like the Moon, just a reflector of light and not an actual light giver.

Now the part of the article that got me interested, is where it says "Why is the sun's outer atmosphere so much hotter than the sun's visible surface?" because that reminds me of statements I have read that the sun is actually more a reflector of light than a generator of it. But I suggest that the reader studies the works of Jakob Lorber and Bertha Dudde himself and I also suggest that scientist do so because they might pick up a lot of ideas there.

So let me now bring some quotes from an article I read today:

Nasa plans probe to the sun

Nasa says it is developing a car-sized satellite that by "no later than 2018" will plunge into the sun's outer atmosphere for an up-close study of its super-hot corona, solar wind and lethal radiation.

The ambitious project, first recommended at the dawn of the space age in 1958, will help "characterise and forecast the radiation environment in which future space explorers will work and live", the US space agency says on its website.

The sun probe is also part of President Barack Obama's long-term space policy announced in April calling for a "robotic exploration of the solar system" before sending US astronauts to orbit Mars by the mid-2030s.

Nasa's Solar Probe Plus mission aims "to solve two key questions of solar physics: why is the sun's outer atmosphere so much hotter than the sun's visible surface and what propels the solar wind that affects Earth and our solar system?" says Dick Fisher, director of Nasa's heliophyiscs division in Washington.

After a 144-million-kilometre journey to the sun including seven gravity-assists from planets including Venus, the Solar Probe Plus spacecraft will plunge directly into the sun's atmosphere 6.4 million kilometres from the star's surface. It will tuck its two solar panels behind a revolutionary carbon-composite heat shield designed to withstand temperatures in access of 1400 degrees Celsius and take measurements with its sophisticated array of instruments.

The probe will also carry out several other experiments, including studies of the particles that compose the solar wind, of the sun's electric and electromagnetic fields, of high-energy electrons, protons and ions, and 3D images of the corona. The probe is likely to be launched no later than 2018, Nasa says.


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